Wednesday, 6 March 2013

My grueling interview with the head of the Human Atheists Andrew Copson



As I’m a very broad-minded Christian lady and although I don’t have time to go to church myself, I’m very keen to understand why anyone would choose not to benefit from the love of our saviour.

I’m well known for being kind and considerate and I endeavor to remain at all times open minded and keen to learn, so I spoke recently to the head of the Human Atheists cult, Andrew Copson to find out more about their ways and beliefs.



Hello Andrew please could you state your full name for the record?
Andrew Copson

Thank you we will begin gently with a light question to put you at your ease. Is that all right with you?
Go ahead.

What is your favourite flavour of ice cream, why do you hate God and why are you trying to ban religion?
I don't hate god because I don't believe that such a thing exists, though I don't like what the idea of god makes some people do. I don't want to ban religion, though I do want to end the discrimination and privilege that many religions perpetrate and which the law in the UK currently allows. My favourite ice cream is cherry and chocolate.

Why do you want to destroy the institution of marriage by calling for equal marriage? It is already equal as it is open to both ladies and men, who are quite at liberty to marry one another. Also I’m married so that must mean that you hate myself and my husband. WHY DO YOU HATE MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND ANDREW?
I'm sure your husband is a perfectly charming, civilized and long-suffering man. The argument for equal marriage is simple. (1) Gay and bisexual people should not be discriminated against in access to human and civil rights. (2) The right to enter into a legal marriage is a civil right. (3) The right to legal recognition for your marriage should therefore be extended to same-sex couples. Rather than destroy the institution of marriage such a reform would strengthen it, by making it more relevant to our more tolerant and open society.

Why are you trying to ban Christmas? Does that not, by extension mean that your organization hates love and family and presents?
I love Christmas. Not just because I love spending time with my family and giving presents, though I do, but because I think it's good to have a moment in the year when you take a step back, rest, and in the depths of winter, remember that we are halfway through it and that there is light and warmth in the world. That is the purpose of mid-winter festivals all over the word and was the purpose of them long before Christianity co-opted it and called it Christmas.



Can we address the fact that you are trying to ban the Boy Scout Movement. Brownie movement and Girl Guide movement. I myself was a sixer, and my husband Piers was very fond of his woggle Andrew, so I ask you this .Why? YES OR NO.
Both the Scouts and Guides say they want to be inclusive of all young people. A majority of young people are not religious and a very large number don't believe in any gods. By making and oath or a promise to god compulsory, any organization is clearly not inclusive. If they want to be inclusive, they have to let in non-religious young people join.

Human Atheists claim that they don’t believe in God, Surely by choosing not to believe in God you are believing that He exists?
Firstly, you can't just 'choose' what to believe exists. If you think something might exist you go me look for evidence that it does. If you find such evidence, it's a good provisional conclusion that the thing in question exists. I can't see any good evidence to believe in and god, so I don't. 

Michael Gove recently decided that he was introducing the teaching of The Theory of Evolution by known crackpot Charles Darwin to primary schools. How can you support this? Aren’t children deserving of our love and protection rather than being taught fairy tales and rumour?
In their science lessons, children should be taught ideas that have been subject to scientific investigation and have known validity as a result. Evolution is one such idea. It is foundational to modern biology and if our children don't learn it, they will be justifiably thought ignorant in the eyes of the world and embarrassingly so.

In terms of aggressive human atheists Andrew, none is more sneakily aggressive than the well-known quiet explainer Professor Richard Dawkins. He may use measured tones and well thought out reasoned argument, but it’s simply a ruse Andrew. As you adopt the same approach please explain why we should listen to this offensive nonsense?
I don't mind whether you listen or not. But I do think that reasoned argument, good manners and an open approach are a good way to conduct discussions in a civilized society. I hope you come to think so too.

Why do you want to ban the wearing of crucifixes? This is clearly oppressing and offending many people. Why?
I don't want to ban the wearing of religious symbols but there are some circumstances where the wearing of them might conflict with an obligation of employment or affect the rights of others, and then we need to balance rights. An example is a primary school teacher who wants to wear a burqa. This would clearly interfere with her ability to do her job and the right of children to education.
Another example is a nurse who wants to wear a cross on a chain when working on wards. If it dangles in a way that might interfere with his duties, then it is reasonable to ask him to tuck it away or wear it on a pin instead. If a therapist working with people traumatized by clerical sex abuse wants to wear a visible crucifix, we might say that was inappropriate and insensitive or damaging to her vulnerable clients and say she could not do so.

You seem to have many supporters in the “show business community” can we understand from this that human Atheists have infiltrated every level of society to a TERRIFYING degree?
You can if you want to. Or you could take it as an indication that more and more people in every sphere of life are seeing the benefits of standing up for values and meaning in the here and now, a more humane approach to ethics, and a more open and fair society for all. I welcome that, perhaps some people may find it terrifying and I'm sorry that you do. But the right approach to fear is not to let it turn into anger and hate, but to be brave. If we are afraid because we feel in danger, we must be rational, cultivate a disinterested perspective from which to assess the real threat.  If we are afraid because we do not understand something, we must have intellectual courage: be brave enough to explore and be curious.
If we are afraid of someone because we do not know them, we must take a leap and try to know them: be brave enough to understand them, try to use our empathy and imaginative sympathy. 
Maybe you could try that?

27 comments:

  1. Duncan Poundcake6 March 2013 at 09:11

    You certainly do not come across as being full of Christian charity Mrs Mountable. There is precious little of the understanding you mentioned in the pre-amble and much ill mannered, bad tempered aggression.

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  2. Hahaha, best one yet!

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  3. I think Mrs Mountable should get credit for saying Equal marriage instead of Gay Marriage, she is the 1st apologist I have heard get it right--- See you really can not make it up :)

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  4. "Broad-minded", "kind and considerate". . . I don't think so. This is shoddy work.

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  5. Is this some kind of joke? Andrew Copson comes across as a reasonable, intelligent person - which is more than can be said for the passive-aggressive interviewer!

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    1. i refer you to my honourable friend's 'woosh' given earlier.

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  6. Obvious troll.

    1/10 made me reply

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  7. Great spoof :)

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  8. It was obvious that she had no intention of being 'open-minded' from the second paragraph in which she called the interviewee the leader of the 'Human Atheist cult'! Since when were Atheists in a cult????

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  9. I can't determine if this is real or not. Andrew appears to be incredibly gracious and open, while the interviewer appears to assume a lot that is mean and untrue.

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  10. This is a really bad attempt at mocking someone else's perspective. It is a bad joke making use of irony.

    Copson comes across as patronising and high-handed masked-as-humble. The mock interviewer seems to be some kind of fundamentalist loon without an education and therefore should be chastened, but really?

    Must try harder boys.

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  11. Never read you before Mrs Mountable but after that you can lighten my evening any time. Thanks. Um, judging by some comments, perhaps you need to make it a little *more* obvious (not really).

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  12. Mrs. Mountable? I think not! You couldn't pay me to mount you, you crazy, fairytale believing cunt! The only thing grueling about your interview is the questions asked in the manner that they were asked, grow up, there are is no sky fairy controlling you, me, the planet, or the universe!

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  13. Mrs. Mountable? I think not! You are a crazy, fairytale believing cunt, who should never be able to interview anyone, believer or non. The only thing grueling was your questions and the way you presented them. Grow up! Stop believing in fairytales, there is no sky fairy that has control over me, you, the planet, or the universe!

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    1. Oh and again.....you are rather attached to saying 'See you next Tuesday' dear.
      Soap- mouth- wash YOU!!!

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  14. You Guys ought to lighten up! "Mrs Mountable" is obviously a made up character, specially designed to antagonize (and get the best out of) people like Andrew Copson. Her profile says it all. Viewing other past "blogs" she comes from a dated viewpoint aiming to get this kind of reaction.

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  15. Dahling Mrs M! I bet your first name's Insa...!

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  16. Very few people appear to know what whoosh means.

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    1. OK - explain please.

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  17. I cannot believe that there are some people who are too obtuse to realise that this is a spoof - and a very good one! Mrs Mountable is an invented character who's raison d'etre is to expose the ridiculous attitude of people who actually do believe in this stuff. I only wish I'd thought of doing it myself!

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  18. Not particularly funny and edited by a 16 year old. Poor.

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  19. God Bless you dear. Your friend Mrs Mountable xx

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  20. "Human atheists"?....is there any other kind of atheist? Is she making a point?

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